OSI Systems Inc. (NASDAQ: NASDAQ:OSIS) reported a robust performance for the second quarter of fiscal year 2025, with earnings per share (EPS) surpassing analyst expectations. The company posted a record non-GAAP adjusted EPS of $2.42, exceeding the forecast of $2.33. Revenues rose by 12% year-over-year to $420 million, although they fell short of the projected $402 million. Following the announcement, OSI Systems' stock price surged by 14.84% in pre-market trading, reflecting strong investor confidence.
Key Takeaways
- OSI Systems reported a record EPS of $2.42, beating forecasts.
- Revenues increased by 12% year-over-year, reaching $420 million.
- Stock price jumped 14.84% in pre-market trading.
- The company raised its FY2025 revenue and EPS guidance.
- New product launches and strategic acquisitions bolster growth prospects.
Company Performance
OSI Systems demonstrated solid performance in Q2 FY2025, driven by growth across its security and healthcare divisions. The company achieved a 12% year-over-year increase in revenues, with significant contributions from its security solutions and recent acquisitions. Despite a slight decline in gross and operating margins, the company's operational efficiency and strategic focus on high-demand sectors have positioned it well against competitors in the security and optoelectronics markets.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue: $420 million, up 12% year-over-year.
- Earnings per share: $2.42, a record high for the quarter.
- Gross margin: 35.1%, down from 37.9% last year.
- Operating margin: 15.0%, slightly down from 15.5%.
Earnings vs. Forecast
OSI Systems exceeded EPS expectations with a reported figure of $2.42 versus the forecasted $2.33, marking a positive surprise of approximately 3.9%. While the company missed its revenue forecast of $402 million, the actual revenue of $420 million represents a strong year-over-year growth, indicating robust demand for its products and services.
Market Reaction
The market reacted positively to OSI Systems' earnings report, with the stock price climbing 14.84% in pre-market trading. This surge reflects investor optimism about the company's future prospects and its ability to deliver strong financial results. The stock's movement places it closer to its 52-week high of $197.7, showcasing renewed investor interest.
Outlook & Guidance
Looking forward, OSI Systems has raised its FY2025 revenue guidance to between $1.685 billion and $1.710 billion, representing a growth range of 9.5% to 11.1%. The company also increased its non-GAAP EPS guidance to $9.10-$9.40, projecting a growth of 11.9% to 15.6%. The company anticipates strong performance in the latter half of the fiscal year, driven by new product launches and strategic acquisitions, including the expansion of its RF Solutions capabilities.
Executive Commentary
CEO A.J. Mera emphasized the company's dominant position in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection market, stating, "We are the dominant player with CBP and we feel very good as we go forward." He also highlighted the long lifecycle of their inspection systems, which creates a predictable stream of recurring service revenues, adding stability to the company's financial outlook.
Q&A
During the earnings call, analysts focused on OSI Systems' border security opportunities with the new administration and the potential impacts of tariffs. The management assured stakeholders of their global manufacturing flexibility, which mitigates potential tariff impacts and enhances their competitive edge in international markets.
Risks and Challenges
- Supply chain disruptions could affect manufacturing timelines and costs.
- Market saturation in key sectors may limit growth opportunities.
- Macroeconomic pressures, including inflation and currency fluctuations, could impact profitability.
- Regulatory changes in international markets might pose operational challenges.
- Dependence on government contracts exposes the company to policy shifts and budget constraints.
By effectively navigating these challenges and capitalizing on growth opportunities, OSI Systems aims to maintain its leadership position and deliver sustained financial performance.
Full transcript - OSI Systems Inc (OSIS) Q2 2025:
Conference Operator: and welcome to the OSI Systems Inc. 2nd Quarter 2025 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. And please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.
Now it's my pleasure to turn the call over to the Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of OSI, Alan Edrick. Please proceed.
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Thank you. Good morning and thank you for joining us. I'm Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and CFO of OSI Systems and I'm here today with A. J. Mera, OSI's new President and CEO.
Welcome to the OSI Systems fiscal 2025 Q2 conference call. We are pleased that you can join us as we review our financial and our operational results. Earlier today, we issued
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: a press
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: release announcing our fiscal 2025 Q2 financial results. Before we discuss these results, however, I would like to remind everyone that today's discussion will include forward looking statements and the company wishes to take advantage of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 with respect to such forward looking statements. All forward looking statements made on this call are based on currently available information and the company undertakes no obligation to update any forward looking statement based upon subsequent events or new information or otherwise. During today's call, we will refer to both GAAP and non GAAP financial measures when describing the company's results. For further information regarding non GAAP measures and comparable GAAP measures of the company's results and a quantitative reconciliation of those figures, please refer to today's earnings press release.
I will begin with a high level summary of our financial performance for the Q2 of fiscal 2025 and then turn the call over to A. J. For a discussion of our business and our operational performance. We will then finish with more detail regarding our financial results and a discussion of our updated outlook for fiscal year 2025. Our 2nd quarter financial results were excellent with record Q2 revenues and operating income at the Security division and solid performance by the Opto division.
We are excited by the momentum across our business and are confident that we are well positioned for the second half of the fiscal year. So let's start with a high level summary of our fiscal 2025 Q2 results. 1st, revenues increased 12% year over year to a Q2 record of $420,000,000 with growth in each of the 3 divisions highlighted by the 16% year over year revenue increase in our Security division. 2nd, the strong revenue growth led to record Q2 non GAAP adjusted earnings per share of $2.42 3rd, bookings were significant and with a book to bill ratio of 1.2 in the quarter, we finished the quarter with a record backlog of more than 1,800,000,000 dollars Our strong backlog and robust pipeline of opportunities provide good visibility going forward. And 4th, we generated operating cash flow of $53,000,000 in Q2, a $76,000,000 jump over the same quarter in the last fiscal year.
This performance was driven by strong profits and an improvement in working capital metrics. As you may know, we had mentioned in our previous call that our strong operating cash flow dynamics was expected to return in 2025. Before diving more deeply into our financial results and discussing our updated outlook for the full fiscal year, I will turn the call over to A. J.
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: Thank you, Alan, and thank you everyone for joining us today. I'm pleased to join this call as CEO for the first time after assuming the role on January 1. It is gratifying to report another record breaking Q2 for fiscal 2025 where we achieved revenues of $420,000,000 representing a 12% growth year over year and strong earnings. The quarterly performance was driven primarily by excellent execution in security and solid results from the optoelectronics and Manufacturing division. Our continued healthy backlog, as Alan pointed out, and expanding opportunity pipeline provides us confidence for robust growth in the second half and a fiscal year and positions us well for the future.
Let me discuss each division's performance starting with Security. The Security division delivered Q2 revenues of $290,000,000 representing a 16% growth over Q2 in the prior year. Bookings were also excellent as we achieved a book to bill ratio of approximately 1.2 for the quarter. During Q2, we continued to deliver on programs and numerous locations including airports, ports, borders and critical infrastructure. In addition, our turnkey projects are performing well in Albania, Puerto Rico, Guatemala and Uruguay, which as we mentioned before commenced earlier last quarter.
During the quarter, we received significant orders for both aviation and cargo products and announced a few of these wins shortly after the quarter ended. First, we announced a $27,000,000 award to provide checkpoint and whole baggage inspection products for an international airport. The products to be provided include RTT-one hundred and ten explosive detection systems for screening whole baggage, Orion 920CT checkpoint screening systems, which are integrated with our Rapiscan trade return systems. In addition, we will supply our trace and other screening systems for air cargo. This award is the latest in a string of major international airport awards received in the past few quarters, which indicates promising growth for our aviation security product revenues going forward.
2nd, we announced an $81,000,000 order from an international customer for Eagle M60 mobile high energy cargo and vehicle inspection systems for border security applications. 3rd, we announced a $32,000,000 award from an international customer for M60s including service and support for port and border security applications. Expanding our installed base among aviation and border security customers not only broadens our hardware installed base, but also significantly boosts our potential for future recurring service revenues. Our aviation contracts open up avenues for additional revenue through follow-up training, hardware maintenance, spare parts and upgrades to our automated threat detection algorithms. Similarly, some of our border and cargo security clients aside from seeking these types of services mentioned also utilize a proprietary CertScan multi site integration platform.
This platform allows us to increase future revenues through new user licenses and software upgrades. Our inspection systems have a typical life cycle of 7 to 10 years, thereby creating predictable stream of ongoing recurring service revenues. Lastly, we announced a $23,000,000 order to support deploying and integrating long range radio frequency critical communication systems. As part of the award, we are expected to provide essential hardware and technical services to enhance the U. S.
Government's strategic RF communication capabilities in a
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: critical region. This
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: is an excellent win for us in our recently acquired RF Solutions business. Furthermore, we are optimistic that we can enhance this business in the marketplace by utilizing our global reach across regions and offering solutions to customers with critical security communication and surveillance requirements. Our security pipeline includes a wide range of opportunities, both internationally and domestically. Moreover, Moroder domestic growth could accelerate driven by the new administration's national security policies. With both major political parties supporting enhanced border security, we are well positioned to play a key role.
Our non intrusive and spec shift technologies are ideally suited to bolster security at airports, ports, borders and other critical infrastructure points. Overall, while product revenue growth has been robust, we expect service revenue as a percentage of overall security revenues to increase and these historically have a higher margin. Moving on to optoelectronics. Optoelectronics delivered another impressive quarter on modest top line growth, achieving a quarterly record with $101,000,000 in revenues. This record was in part driven by a flex circuit operation with SIRF's consumer and medical technology customers was a major contributor to Q2 growth.
Based on Opto's recent trends and our dialogues with key OEMs, we believe that the phase where many customers were adjusting inventory levels and tempering demand forecast is now mostly in the past. During the quarter, we announced an $11,000,000 order to provide critical electronics sub assemblies for a long standing healthcare OEM customer. We also announced an order for $6,000,000 from a different healthcare OEM to provide optical sensors for its patient care devices. These orders exemplify the kind of repeat business we consistently secure from established customers, accounting for approximately 80% of this division's total revenue. We are actively working with clients looking to diversify away from China by relocating component or value added manufacturing to our international facilities.
Given our current demand visibility, we anticipate the Opto division will deliver a robust performance in the second half of the fiscal year. And finally, let's discuss the Healthcare division, where Q2 revenues grew 7% year over year with improving profitability, although less than we typically see. It was nice to see a return to growth in healthcare, indicative of a pickup in order activity from hospitals and solid execution of our sales strategy built around a clinical workflow and predictive analytics solutions. During the quarter, we announced a $6,000,000 order from a U. S.-based hospital system to provide patient monitoring solutions and related supplies.
We expect to provide a range of patient monitoring solutions and accessories to support this customer and others. While we continue to invest in developing new products including our next generation platform, we are intently focused on driving growth and improving the overall operating performance of our Security division. On a personal note, I'm honored and excited to begin the President and CEO role at OSI. The company has a critical mission to support the global community's safety, security and well-being. Having been part of this company's journey, I have seen the potential in all of our operational divisions and the talented individuals who have been key to our success.
I look forward to continuing OSI's growth. Overall, we are pleased with OSI's first half look and look forward to an even stronger performance in the second half. I will now return the call to Alan to discuss our financial performance further before we open the call for questions. Thank you.
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Thank you, A. J. Now I will review in greater detail the financial results for the fiscal 2025 Q2. As previously mentioned, our Q2 revenues were up 12% compared with revenues in the Q2 of the prior fiscal year. This increase was primarily driven by our largest division Security.
The 16% year over year increase in Q2 Security division revenues was fueled by growth in aviation and checkpoint product sales, including strong growth in trace detection system sales. Q2 revenues included continued shipments from the $200,000,000 plus cargo contract and also from our 2 contracts with Sedena in Mexico. In addition, the business acquired in fiscal Q1 is gaining momentum and contributed to the Security division revenues nicely. 3rd party Opto sales were solid, delivering a 4% year over year increase, driven by growth from our Flex (NASDAQ:FLEX) business as well as others. The rightsizing of inventory levels, as A.
J. Mentioned, with our Opto customers is largely complete and we anticipate an acceleration of the revenue growth rate in the Opto division as early as Q3. And the Healthcare division returned to growth, reporting a 7% increase in year over year sales in Q2. The fiscal 2025 Q2 gross margin of 35.1 percent was solid. Our gross margin in Q2 last year of 37.9% was the strongest in any quarter of fiscal 2024 due to a very favorable product mix and security.
Our gross margin will generally fluctuate from period to period based on revenue mix and volume, impacts of changes in supply chain costs, FX and inflation among other factors. Moving to operating expenses, Q2 SG and A expenses were $71,000,000 or 16.8 percent of sales compared to $72,000,000 or 19.2 percent of sales in Q2 of the prior year. The 240 basis point improvement resulted from leveraging our fixed cost structure and maintaining strong discipline in managing such costs. We work diligently across each of our divisions to improve efficiency and manage our SG and A cost structure. Research and development expenses in Q2 of fiscal 2025 were $18,000,000 or 4.3 percent of revenues compared to $16,000,000 or 4.4 percent of revenues in the same prior year quarter.
We continue to dedicate considerable resources to R and D, particularly in our security and healthcare divisions, as we remain focused on innovative product development, which we view as vital to the long term successes of our businesses. We recorded $200,000 restructuring and other charges in Q2 of fiscal 2025 compared to $1,000,000 in the same quarter of the prior year. Moving to interest and taxes. Net interest and other expenses in Q2 fiscal 2025 increased to $8,600,000 from $6,500,000 in Q2 fiscal 2024, primarily due to a higher amount of borrowings associated with the investment in working capital for the sales growth and acquisition completed in Q1 and stock buyback partially offset by the favorable impact of the convertible notes issued during Q1, which were partially used to repay higher cost borrowings. Our reported effective tax rate under GAAP was 23.3 percent in Q2 of fiscal 2025 compared to 20.2% in Q2 of last year.
However, excluding the impact of discrete tax benefits, our normalized effective tax rate, which is the rate reflected in our calculation of non GAAP adjusted EPS was 24.0% in Q2 fiscal 2025 compared to 25.8% in Q2 of 2024. I'll now turn to a discussion of our non GAAP adjusted operating margin. Overall, our adjusted operating margin in the Q2 of fiscal 2025 was a solid 15.0 percent, up sequentially from 10.3% in Q1. This quarter faced a tough comp as Q2 and fiscal 2024 was 15.5%, which was the strongest adjusted operating margin quarter of FY 2024. The Q2 adjusted operating margin in the Security division was 19.9%, although down year over year due to this tough comp, this represented the 2nd strongest adjusted operating margin in the Security division's history.
Due to a ramp up of newer Opto operations, the Opto division's adjusted operating margin was 12.8% in the Q2 of fiscal 2025 compared to 13.4% on last year's Q2. We anticipate nice adjusted operating margin expansion in Opto in the second half of fiscal twenty twenty five. The Healthcare division's adjusted operating margin, while lighter than we would like, still increased 300 basis points year over year. Moving to cash flow. Q2 marked a return to significant cash flow with cash provided by operations of $53,000,000 CapEx in the 25 second fiscal quarter was $5,500,000 while depreciation and amortization expense in fiscal Q2 was $10,600,000 We saw a nice improvement in DSO in Q2 as solid collections
Larry Solow, Analyst, CJS Securities: led
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: to a 16% reduction in DSO from Q1. As we mentioned last quarter, our receivables and DSO are both above typical levels, mainly because of the timing of billings and collections for our significant international security cargo contracts. For these contracts, building is triggered by the achievement of significant project milestones, which are highly influenced by the customers' timeline and sign off. So under GAAP, we record an unbilled receivable for revenue earned and then bill and collect cash subsequent to the achievement of the relevant milestone. Note, while unbilled receivables are elevated relative to historical levels and represent a significant source of significant future cash flow, the balance decreased by 19% at the end of Q2 versus the end of Q1.
We continue to anticipate operating cash flow could be significant in the second half of fiscal twenty twenty five. Our balance sheet is solid with net leverage of approximately 2.1 as calculated under our credit agreement. Aside from 7 point $5,000,000 of annual required principal payments under our bank term loan, the bulk of our bank debt matures in fiscal 'twenty seven. We estimate over 70% of our debt was fixed versus floating at the end of Q2 of fiscal 'twenty five. And finally, turning to guidance.
We are increasing our fiscal 2025 revenues and non GAAP diluted EPS guidance. For the full fiscal year, we anticipate revenues in the range of $1,685,000,000 to $1,710,000,000 increasing our guidance on year over year revenue growth to a range of 9.5% to 11.1%. We are also increasing FY 2025 non GAAP adjusted earnings per diluted share guidance to a range of $9.10 to $9.40 per share, representing 11.9% to 15.6% growth. This fiscal 2025 non GAAP diluted EPS guidance excludes potential impairment restructuring and other charges, amortization of acquired intangible assets and their associated tax effects, as well as discrete tax and other non recurring items. We currently believe this guidance reflects reasonable estimates.
The actual impact of the company's financial results of timing changes on the expected conversion of backlog to revenues and new bookings is difficult to predict and could vary significantly from the anticipated impact currently reflected in our guidance. Actual revenues and non GAAP earnings per diluted share could also vary from the guidance indicated above due to other risks and uncertainties discussed in our SEC filings. We continue to remain focused on the growth of our businesses. We believe our efforts will enable OSI to continue providing innovative products and solutions. We'd like to take this opportunity to thank the global OSI team for its continued dedication in supporting our customers and partners.
And at this time, we'd like to open the call to questions.
Conference Operator: Thank you. It comes from the line of Josh Nichols with B. Riley. Please proceed.
Josh Nichols, Analyst, B. Riley: Yes. Thanks for taking my question. And A. J, congratulations Yes. Thanks for taking my question.
And A. J, congratulations on the new role. Things are
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: off to a great start.
Josh Nichols, Analyst, B. Riley: Looking you touched on it briefly, I think, but while it's early days, the new administration clearly has an increased focus on border security. Any context you could provide around the potential increase in opportunity versus what you're currently doing on the U. S. Border front and how that could change if there's some increased allocations to budgets for some of these 3 letter agencies that are going to be doing a lot of the border security as there's an anticipated ramp up over the next few years presumably?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: Josh, this is A. J. Thank you. So, great question. It's been 3 not even 3 days, but I think as you know that border security really is a bipartisan issue.
And there's been a lot of movement both on the House and on the Senate trying to reconcile the bills, which are substantially higher than what they were previously in terms of total funding. So we think with the new emphasis with the new administration, it's positive. We believe that the technology that we provide and not just the technology, but some of the software like SearchScan, which we're able to really go in and look to see if drugs, the wrong people are coming in is really a plus for us. We are the dominant player with CBP and we feel very good as we go forward. And I think that we'll see more and more over the next 3, 6 months.
But all indications from our end are positive.
Josh Nichols, Analyst, B. Riley: Thanks for the context. And then just a little bit deeper, I mean, on the recent acquisition, the RF Solutions business seems to be that business is already doing pretty well. I noticed the company secured, I think, a $23,000,000 award already. Could you talk a little bit about some of the opportunities that you see layering this into OSI Systems given that you have a much larger global sales infrastructure and the opportunity to kind of expand the revenue base relative to what it was currently doing before you acquired the business?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: I think you kind of answered your question over there because yes, one of the advantages that this company has now is it's got the OSI's financial muscle as well as the different areas that we are in all over the world. So we definitely are going to help them. We are integrating them, working very closely. I mean, just keep in mind, they're in the defense sector, but also they're over the horizon radar. It's really crucial for border security and drug interdiction.
Keep in mind that these radars provide broad range base surveillance systems that enables tracking of aircraft, drones, surface ships in designated zones around the U. S. Water. And we feel that's an opportunity as we go forward besides obviously their traditional opportunities in defense. So we are talking to the customers and we have had a very positive response.
Also I think from an OSI perspective, we have customer base which is very similar to theirs, but it's got us deeper into those customers and more and more we have more to discuss with them. So we're not just discussing scanning, but we're discussing how we protect the overall border,
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: for example.
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: Sounds good. Thank you.
Conference Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question, please. It comes from the line of Mariana Perez Mora with Bank of America. Please proceed.
Mariana Perez Mora, Analyst, Bank of America: Hello everyone and thank you for taking my question. So the first one is going to be around Mexico, and I appreciate the details you gave in the prepared remarks. But like, could you please describe how much of a contribution Mexico was to the quarter? And how should we think about that going forward, at least in the second half of the year? I see that book to bill was really strong in the quarter, and you also had like a really strong start to the year with orders.
So is that enough to offset any slowdown in terms of like recognition of the SEDENA contracts? Or like how should we think about that transition? Thank you.
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Hi, Mariano. This is Alan. Good question. The Mexico contract was a significant contributor to us in the first half of the year. In the second half of the year, it's anticipated to continue to be a significant contributor, but at a lighter amount than we saw in the second half of fiscal twenty twenty four.
With a very robust backlog and the strong opportunity pipeline, we're effectively replacing the strong Mexico revenues that we had in Q3 and Q4, a portion thereof with non Mexico contracts. And we feel extremely, extremely confident about that. So really a robust opportunity set. Mexico is important to us, but as we have said, we shipped a significant amount last year, shipping a significant amount this year. But we are really well positioned for the future because we have such a strong backlog of non Mexico business and such a strong opportunity set as well.
Mariana Perez Mora, Analyst, Bank of America: Thank you. And then when you think about this transition, right, especially because the early stages of this contract were mostly products, how should we think about the products versus services mix? 2nd quarter and like probably in the like the trend towards like the next 12 months?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: So this is A. J. I think that if you look at the product that's getting shipped, we always say that one of the things the products that we ship leads us to recurring service revenue. So we feel really into 'twenty six and really 'twenty seven and beyond that we're going to see some very good recurring revenue for service. All these products have to be serviced in Mexico, for example.
So that revenue will continue. And as I mentioned earlier, that service revenue has very good margins. So we're fully expecting that.
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: And maybe to supplement that, this is Alan. We've had significant product revenue growth over the last few years. And as those products are now beginning to roll off a warranty and create service revenue, as A. J. Described, we expect to see real strong service revenue growth at the higher contribution margins beginning as early as now this sort of Q3.
So it's a nice position to be in with a strong installed base that we put out there moving to this more recurring revenue at higher margin is a nice position to be in.
Mariana Perez Mora, Analyst, Bank of America: Thank you. And one more from my end. I'm just curious, like part of this like radio frequency critical communications award that you've got, how much of that is like incremental to the portfolio you acquired? And how much is more like a recompete of like what the existing portfolio was?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: Well, I think this is there's always incremental business, but this one is new as we move forward. So we're actually looking not just to get the incremental business, but get the growth as I mentioned earlier with having the OSI muscle behind us and being able to not just get into the defense side, but maybe also the border security side where we can see new business and we're very focused on maintaining the business that we have, getting that business, but looking at new opportunities.
Mariana Perez Mora, Analyst, Bank of America: Perfect. Thank you so much for the color.
Conference Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question that comes from Larry Solow with CJS Securities. Please proceed.
Larry Solow, Analyst, CJS Securities: Great. Thank you. A. J, I welcome you, congratulate you on your new role as well. I guess first question for you, A.
J, you mentioned sort of this expanding opportunity pipeline. And you've spoken a lot about most of your kind of end markets and verticals. I'm just curious, if any of those verticals stand out where there's more opportunity for expansion going forward? I mean, obviously, we've talked a lot about ports and borders, but it does sound like the new administration to we're bipartisan, so maybe not a significant real change there, although maybe headlines sound like it will change. But maybe just the question is, is the new administration driving these new expanded opportunities?
Or where are you seeing kind of outsized opportunity growth?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: So I think, thank you, first of all, Larry. But the growth is across the board. So yes, we talk about borders, security, that's in the news. Sure, we're going to see we think we're going to see growth. A lot of it is just starting.
And as Alan pointed out, it's not just about the initial product, but it's about what else can we do? Can we integrate some of it with our CertScan software, get recurring revenues, get the service revenue? Aviation is huge. Internationally, we have a lot of opportunities. We've announced a couple of orders and we feel on the check baggage as well as the checkpoint, there are a lot of opportunities.
TSA, as you know, they've had some changes there with the new administrator coming in. We don't know who that's going to be. But their check baggage, which we have an excellent product in our RTT, those are in some cases 20 plus years old. So they have to replace those probably in the next 2, 3, 4 years when they start. They're tray systems where we participate in.
And these are huge opportunities, not just in the U. S, but internationally. And I think as you look at the Opto side, we keep on we talk about security, but the moving away from China manufacturing, we as a company are uniquely situated with a lot of international facilities that we have around the world where we can accommodate that. And really we do business with a lot of defense companies on the security side and opto side and I think we can really merge those opportunities and go talk to the customers as a large company who's unique in providing obviously the security side, but the ability to manufacture on the Opto side. And medical for us, we're investing a lot of money in the next generation products, looking at how we broaden that product line, just like we're doing in security.
So we feel very good about all the growth opportunities. So I would not just say it's just on ports and borders. That's one very significant color, but there's a lot more out there.
Larry Solow, Analyst, CJS Securities: Right. And on the ports and borders in particular, it feels like you've announced several larger size deals. Most of them were actually international. I'm just curious, is the do you feel like you got a bigger opportunity now? Well, obviously, international is a bigger geographical region, but is the U.
S. Seems to me seems like maybe it's lower on your proportion of what's driving ports and borders today. Is that a fair statement?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: I think that U. S. Is just as important, if not the most important to us. As you look at it, we've been driven a lot internationally, but we have these IDIQs with CDP, for example, and I think there are going to be new IDIQs coming in. We have worked very closely with CDP and other organizations where we develop new products.
They're coming out. We have the largest share of the market in the U. S. And we feel as the next generation products come out, which we've developed very closely talking to our customers, So it's not just something we're coming out with and integrating the hardware with the software where it makes it easier for people and to look for contraband etcetera. And keep in mind, a lot of people just look at security as an expense.
But at the end of the day, when we introduce these products and I'm not going to go into some specifics for competitive reasons, but it really facilitates the trade coming through the borders. And in the end, it's really cheaper overall for the consumer at the end of it. So a lot going on, but the U. S. Is important.
I think there's good opportunity for the next several years.
Larry Solow, Analyst, CJS Securities: Got you. And if I may just squeeze in. Alan, a question for you just on the margin security. Like you said, the gross margin was down year over year because of the mix. But if we just look sequentially, it looks like your services revenue were about flat and your margin went up like 5 50 bps.
Is that mostly just on the SG and A leverage on the higher revenue? Is that the, I guess, the biggest driver or the predominant driver?
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Yes, Larry, it really is. The economies of scale, as we leverage our fixed cost structure. So that is really kind of what drove it on a sequential basis for OSI Systems overall. You're exactly right.
Larry Solow, Analyst, CJS Securities: Got you. And then just lastly, on the off sell division up 4% in the quarter, nice return to growth in the first half. You mentioned a lot of qualitative things, obviously on shoring. I know you have a new facility in Mexico. What's the kind of driver of you mentioned margin expansion in the back half of the year?
Is that also just on operating leverage or any color on that would be
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: great? Thanks. Good question, Larry. This is Alan. So I'd say really what's going to drive the accelerated growth in Opto as we expect in the second half of the year is a few fold.
One is kind of the rightsizing the inventory levels is largely behind us. So we're now seeing customers return to their normal ordering patterns. And in fact, our book to bill in Opto in our Q2 was north of 1 as well. So we expect that to drive accelerated growth. You mentioned the new operation that we have in Mexico.
That is gaining momentum also, which will certainly help. The mix of business is expected to be favorable for us in the second half, which should also drive some margin expansion. So all in all, we expect to see some nice top line growth coupled with operating margin expansion in the second half for the Opto division.
Larry Solow, Analyst, CJS Securities: Great. Thanks, Alan. I appreciate it.
Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Glynn with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Christopher Glynn, Analyst, Oppenheimer: Yes, thanks. I'm curious just wanted to dive into the aviation sector a little bit and welcome Ajay, good to hear you on the call. Curious, would you call the global kind of replacement and upgrade cycle in aviation in its early days? I know the U. S.
Is sort of lagging the international, but maybe kind of an innings rating for the international and the total global on that. And are you seeing improving win rates in aviation versus historical?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: Thanks, Chris. So it's an interesting question because aviation is such a big market. And when you look at aviation, you've got checkpoints. Within checkpoints, you have your checkpoint CT systems where you put your baggage through. You have people screening, you have trace.
You have so many different products out there. And obviously, you have your checked baggage. So coming to the U. S, the U. S.
Has been focused on checkpoint CT. I think as we move forward, they are definitely going to look to see what they do in TRACE, which we have a which we are a very significant player and I believe one of the leaders. RTT on the check baggage is definitely a big opportunity for us as well. And we feel that TSA is going to have to look at potentially upgrading, replacing some of these products starting a couple of years from now. So that's maybe 3 years from now, but that's where the market is.
And we feel that we're in a good position to participate. Internationally, we're winning a lot of orders. It's a big market. Obviously, we are in the Checkpoint as well as Check Baggage as well as Trace. We have bundled some of the products.
Customers know us very well. And then market is in some places it's starting, some places it's in the middle. And as keep in mind, as you get towards the end, another cycle starts. So it's the continuing cycles, not just you fill this up and it's going to go away. It's almost like a car.
You're going to have a car. I mentioned, I believe in my prepared remarks that was 7 to 10 years was what some of this equipment is there for. In aviation, depending on technology, might even be in some cases a little faster or a little slower. So it's a continuing business. And the key thing over there is as we get into this business, there is recurring service revenue as we move forward.
So it is really there's no one answer beginning, end, middle. It's really a continuing business, the best way to answer it.
Christopher Glynn, Analyst, Oppenheimer: Great. That's really helpful for understanding that. And then you mentioned the bulk of the debt coming due and I'm not sure if you said fiscal 'twenty seven or calendar 'twenty seven. But when are you what are you anticipating for pricing or timing as you redo that? How far ahead are you interested in addressing that?
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Hey, Chris. This is Alan. So, yes, the credit facility, which is sort of our natural 5 year credit facility matures in December of 'twenty six, which is our fiscal 'twenty seven. So, out the course of calendar 'twenty five, we'll be working with our banks as we've done numerous times in the past to likely amend and extend the credit facility. As you may know, even though we're not an investment grade company due to our size, we have investment grade pricing as it comes to the credit facility, so quite favorable for us.
Christopher Glynn, Analyst, Oppenheimer: Great. Thanks. That's all I got.
Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Akers with Wells Fargo (NYSE:WFC). Please proceed.
Matt Akers, Analyst, Wells Fargo: Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for the question and congrats A. J. On the new role. I wanted to ask about cash.
Good to see positive cash flow in the quarter, some of that working capital reversing. I know Alan you mentioned the back half, continue to see pretty good cash flow. Just curious, should we see that as still kind of lumpy around maybe some of these milestones of some of the big international products? Or are we to the point now where that's kind of a steadier free cash flow here going forward?
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Yes, Matt, good questions. This is Alan. It'll never be sort of a steady pace of cash flow within the likes of our business. We'll always have some quarters that are much stronger and some quarters that are a little bit lighter. We have an opportunity to continue to sort of outperform on a cash flow basis with a strong free cash flow to net income conversion rate given that we have some money sort of tied up in working capital.
So as the receivables begin to normalize as does the inventory, there's opportunity for significant free cash flow generation. And we expect to see that in our second half and as we move into fiscal 'twenty four and forward. So we think we'll continue to have a good free cash flow conversion rate, though it's never going to be perfectly smooth due to kind of the nature of our business some of the international contracts that we have.
Matt Akers, Analyst, Wells Fargo: Yes, got it. Okay. I wanted to ask about tariffs, given how that's been kind of a topic with the new administration. Just curious how you think about any risk associated with either prices due to tariffs or customers, you guys have a lot of international business, Mexico, for example, just how you're kind of thinking about the risk around that?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: It's a question that is on a lot of people's minds, obviously. I think it's a little too early to tell what's going to happen. But I will say, from an OSI perspective, we're well situated because we have manufacturing facilities in the U. S. We have manufacturing facilities in Europe, Asia and we have the flexibility to turn things around and really work closely with our customers on what their needs are and if they need to address any tariff situation.
So, I think at this point, it's a wait and see attitude, but I think it's much more of a challenge for companies that are manufacturing only outside the U. S. And importing into the U. S. For us, like I said, it's much more flexible and we have the ability to really switch manufacturing to different locations.
So we'll watch it just like everybody else is watching it.
Matt Akers, Analyst, Wells Fargo: Yes, great. Thank you. And then if I could squeeze one last one in. I guess maybe any way to think about the seasonality between Q3, Q4? I think Alan as you mentioned Q2 last year margins kind of unusually strong.
Just anything to think about it as we go into the back half?
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Yes, Matt, good question. We would see the back half weighted a bit more to Q4 as we typically do. Q4 tends to be our strongest quarter at the end of the fiscal year. As a result, we would see our revenue stronger there. And from a margin mix perspective, we would expect to see the operating margins stronger in Q4 than in Q3.
Great. Thank you.
Conference Operator: Thank you again. And as a reminder, if you do have a question, please press star one one to get in the queue. And for our next question. We have a follow-up from the line of Mariana Perez with Bank of America. Please proceed.
Mariana Perez Mora, Analyst, Bank of America: Thank you and hello again. So I have a follow-up to Matt's question. When we think about balance sheet and free cash flow, how should we think about receivables going forward and especially the unbilled receivables balance?
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Hi, Mariana, it's Alan. So we would expect that our DSO is going to improve going forward. Of course, we expect to grow the top line. So in absolute dollars receivables could grow from time to time, but we'd expect to see our DSO down. With respect to unbilled receivables, we are really pleased to see a 19% decrease in our unbilled receivables from the end of Q1 to Q2, which is what we are anticipating.
I believe as we get to the end of the fiscal year in June, we'll see those unbilled receivables significantly down from where they are today. And as we move the unbilled receivables to build receivables and therefore cash collection, that's what should drive sort of this outsized free cash flow for us as well. So a real nice position to be in for us.
Mariana Perez Mora, Analyst, Bank of America: Thank you. And one more on the contribution from the acquisition. Have you measured how much was it per share?
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Not per share. We did roughly $17,000,000 of revenues in the quarter. So it performed quite nicely for us.
Mariana Perez Mora, Analyst, Bank of America: Thank you so much.
Conference Operator: And thank you. One moment for our next question please. And it comes from the line of Jeff Martin with ROTH Capital Partners (WA:CPAP). Please proceed.
Jeff Martin, Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners: Thanks. Hi, Elna, Ajay. Somehow I got mixed up in the queue apparently. I wanted to dive into the surveillance business that you acquired in September a little more. In terms of product portfolio, are there things you can do to enhance that offering?
Is it where it should be? Do you need to invest significantly in R and D? And are there complementary products which are either in your existing security product portfolio or that you might look to acquire in the future to enhance that?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: So, Jeff, I think I went into it a little bit, but just to reemphasize why this made sense was number 1, the customer base that they have in the U. S. With DoD and obviously internationally is really something that we're very familiar with and we're able to go and talk to those customers and really expand our offering. You go and look at some of the products that they have, I mentioned the over the horizon radar. Obviously, what everybody looks at it over the horizon radar is for drones and missiles like what's going on in Ukraine.
Everybody was looking at ballistic missiles coming through and that's where satellites would pick up. But cruise missiles and drones are causing just as much damage. So there's a big opportunity for traditional over the high radar to be there. Having said that, it really applies very closely like I mentioned to what we do is more security because these radars can be used for ships, vehicles, drones coming across the border, carrying all kinds of drugs and anything else and the capabilities of drones from a payload is going to get bigger and bigger. So I think that's going to become a definitely more and more of a threat.
And then traditionally, there in other defense areas like their ULF, which is ultra low frequency, which are only for communication of for submarines when they're underwater that's the only form of communication that they really have. And there are opportunities in space and others but really the key opportunity for us is providing them with the capabilities from a financial standpoint, from a reach standpoint and really working much closer with some of the larger companies, defense contractors out there. As far as the question on R and D, they spend money on R and D, but a lot of that R and D is funded by their customers. So we think it's a very good fit and the opportunities are definitely there and we'll keep you informed over the next several quarters, but we feel good about it.
Jeff Martin, Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners: That's helpful. I appreciate that. So the security and the opto have been covered pretty extensively. So I'll throw a healthcare division question out there. I know you've been working on next generation patient monitoring system for several years now.
Are you at a point where you can kind of give a timeline on what the rollout of that new platform looks like? And you also have mentioned in the past that you're evaluating the leasing model within the industry, which could be a differentiator. And just maybe if you could give an update if that's gained much traction or if that's more pending the launch of the new patient monitoring platform?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: I think that we're actually spending considerable resources on the new platform with our R and D team. I'm not going to give you an exact timing more for competitive reasons than anything else, but we think that it's 26 and beyond, but we feel good about what we're hearing, what progress we're making from that standpoint. And really it's not just over there, but some of the other ions and other products that we're able to offer besides our next generation platform, whether it's remote monitoring, whether it's predictive analysis, etcetera. So all that really goes together and the objective is that we become from a technology as well as from a sales standpoint, it gives us a good boost down the road. But exact timing like I said, as we started introducing the products, we'll give you more color on that.
Great. And then last question for
Jeff Martin, Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners: me on the turnkey side, you mentioned existing customers are happy, things are going well there. Are you seeing much opportunity to expand the customer base within turnkey solutions offering?
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: The short answer is yes, we're working on several opportunities. Like you know, these are not opportunities that happen in a couple of months. In some cases, you have to work with the international governments, you have to basically go through and educate them on the whole process. So it takes quite a while to get through it, but we are actively working on several opportunities right now.
Alan Edrick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, OSI Systems: Excellent. Thank you.
Conference Operator: Thank you so much. And I do not see any further questions in the queue. Back to you guys.
A.J. Mera, President and CEO, OSI Systems: Well, thank you. Once again, thank you for participating in our conference call and we look forward to speaking with you at our next earnings call.
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