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Earnings call: EuroDry Limited reports revenue growth amid market challenges

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Published 05/21/2024, 06:56 PM
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EuroDry Limited (NASDAQ: NASDAQ:EDRY), a leading dry bulk shipping company, has reported a significant increase in total net revenues for the first quarter of 2024, reaching $14.4 million, which marks a 27.2% rise from the previous year.

Despite this growth, the company faced a net loss of $1.8 million, or $0.65 per share, and an adjusted net loss of $3.2 million, or $1.18 per share. Amidst a modest decline in the dry bulk market, EuroDry Limited remains cautiously optimistic about the future, citing a robust market outlook for the rest of 2024 and a strategic focus on running its fleet at market rates, reducing debt, and seeking new opportunities.

Key Takeaways

  • Total net revenues for EuroDry Limited increased by 27.2% to $14.4 million in Q1 2024.
  • The company reported a net loss of $1.8 million, with an adjusted net loss of $3.2 million.
  • Approximately 300,000 shares were repurchased for $4.7 million under the share repurchase program.
  • The fleet consists of 13 vessels with a total capacity of about 1 million deadweight tons.
  • The global economy is expected to grow at 3.2% in 2024, with dry bulk trade demand projected to increase by 2.4%.

Company Outlook

  • EuroDry Limited expects the dry bulk market to remain robust throughout 2024 with rates around current levels.
  • The company is closely monitoring China's economic performance and the decarbonization process's impact on trade lines and dry bulk volumes.
  • One year time charter rates for Panamax ships are at $16,150 per day, approximately 20% above the historical median.

Bearish Highlights

  • The company is facing a net loss and adjusted net loss in Q1 2024.
  • Dry bulk market experienced a modest decline in the first quarter.
  • There was a loss in the current quarter due to drydocks, off-hire of a specific ship, and losses on Freight Forward Agreements (FFAs).

Bullish Highlights

  • The order book for new ships is at 9.3% of the total fleet, indicating low fleet growth in the coming years.
  • Positive factors for 2025 include low supply growth and slower vessel growth due to environmental regulations.
  • The company is positioning its fleet for more market exposure, anticipating a positive market in the upcoming months.

Misses

  • EuroDry Limited's share price is trading at a significant discount compared to its net asset value, suggesting a potential upside for shareholders.
  • Boiler damage on one ship led to repair costs of approximately $900,000, which are insured, but the loss of 17 days of employment is not covered.

Q&A Highlights

  • The CEO discussed using generated cash flow for payments throughout the year, with a significant reduction in repayments in the following years.
  • Plans to refinance upcoming loan payments due in 2027.
  • The company has all ships on spot charters but may fix a portion of the fleet at higher rates if the market strengthens.
  • OpEx is on budget for the first quarter and expected to be slightly higher for the rest of the year.
  • The company expresses cautious optimism about returning to profitability in the next quarter.

InvestingPro Insights

EuroDry Limited's (NASDAQ: EDRY) first-quarter performance shows a mix of challenges and opportunities. The company's increase in net revenues is a positive sign, but its net loss indicates some underlying financial pressures.

InvestingPro Data reveals a current Market Cap of approximately $61.61 million, indicating the company's size in the financial markets. The P/E Ratio stands at -21, reflecting the company's current lack of profitability. Still, the Revenue Growth (Quarterly) for Q1 2023 shows a modest increase of 5.17%, suggesting some resilience in the company's revenue streams despite market headwinds.

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Full transcript - EuroDry Ltd (EDRY) Q1 2024:

Operator: Thank you for standing by, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the EuroDry Limited Conference Call on the First Quarter 2024 Financial Results. We have Mr. Aristides Pittas, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Tasos Aslidis, Chief Financial Officer of the company. [Operator Instructions] I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today. Please be reminded that the company announced its results with a press release that has been publicly distributed. Before passing the floor to Mr. Pittas, I would like to remind everyone that in today's presentation and conference call, EuroDry will be making forward-looking statements. These statements are within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Matters discussed may be forward-looking statements which are based on current management expectations that involve risks and uncertainties that may result in such expectations not being realized. I kindly draw your attention to Slide number 2 of the webcast presentation, which has the full forward-looking statement, and the same statement was also included in the press release. Please take a moment to go through the whole statement and read it. And now I'd like to pass the floor to Mr. Pittas. Please go ahead, sir.

Aristides Pittas: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen and thank you all for joining us today for our scheduled conference call. Together with me is Tasos Aslidis, our Chief Financial Officer. The purpose of today's call is to discuss our financial results for the three month period ended March 31, 2024. Please turn to Slide 3 of the presentation. Our financial highlights are shown here. For the first quarter of 2024, we reported total net revenues of $14.4 million and the net loss attributable to controlling shareholders of $1.8 million or $0.65 loss per basic and diluted share. Adjusted net loss attributable to controlling shareholders for the quarter was $3.2 million or $1.18 loss per basic and diluted shares. Adjusted EBITDA for the period was $2.1 million. Please turn to the press release for a reconciliation of adjusted net income and adjusted EBITDA. Our CFO, Tasos Aslidis will go over our financial highlights in more detail later on in the presentation. As of May 21, 2024, we had repurchased a total of about 300,000 shares of our common stock in the open market for a total of $4.7 million under our share repurchase program of up to $10 million announced in August 2022. The plan was renewed in August 2023 for another year. Please turn to Slide 4 for an overview of our sales and purchase chartering and drydocking highlights. On the chartering side, most of our vessels are employed in short-term charters, whilst motor vessel Ekaterini continues to be employed under an index-linked charter until March 2025 at the 105.5% of the average Baltic Kamsarmax index, the index based on the Kamsarmax time charter routes. You can see the specifics of the various charters we fixed in the accompanying presentation. We plan to continue trading spot for the time being, but if charter rates firm further, we will consider securing a portion of our vessels earnings via time charter or FFAs. Regarding dry-dockings and repairs, during the quarter, we had two vessels of the growing drydock, motor vessels: Blessed Luck and Molyvos Luck. Motor vessel Starlight underwent its drydock in April. In addition, Blessed Luck was operationally off-hire for 17 days due to the damage of the auxiliary boiler. The cost of the repairs will be covered by the ship’s Hull & Machinery underwriters in full, but unfortunately, the time lost is not. The cost of the two drydocks and the resulting idle time, together with the idle time of the Blessed Luck during the repairs, are the primary factors for the loss we incurred during this quarter. Please turn to Slide 5. EuroDry fleet consists of 13 vessels, including five Panamax dry bulk carriers, five Ultramax vessels, two Kamsarmax and a Supramax dry bulk carrier. Our 13 dry bulk carriers have a total cargo capacity of about 1 million deadweight tons and an average age of 13.5 years. At this point, I'd like to remind you, as previously announced in our last earnings call, that EuroDry owns 61% of the entities that own motor vessels Christos K and Maria. The remaining 39% is owned by owners represented by NRP Project Finance, otherwise referred to as the NRP investors. Please now turn to Slide 6 for a further update on our fleet employment. As you can see, fixed rate coverage for the remainder of 2024 stands at around 27%. Turning to Slide 7, we go over the market highlights for the first quarter ended March 31, 2024 and up until recently. Spot rates continued their momentum from late 2023 and experienced an unusually strong first quarter, supported by key commodity exports and the Red Sea and Panama Canal disruptions, counter to the typical seasonal trends. In the first quarter of 2024, the average spot market rate for Panamaxes hovered around $13,600 per day. By May 17, the spot rates have increased to approximately $15,000 per day. In parallel, in the one year time charter rates for Panamaxes were around $15,600 per day during the first quarter, rising to $16,150 by May 17, versus about $14,300 last year. Including one year rate relative to spot prices may suggest that, overall the sector seems set for a more positive 2024 than 2023. Please now turn to Slide 9. The IMF's latest update in April 2024 projects the global economy will continue to grow at 3.2% in 2024, the same pace as in 2023. And this growth rate is expected to continue into 2025. This is largely due to a sizable improvement in the economic outlook for the United States, offset by a more modest slowdown in emerging and developing economies. In one of the biggest changes, Russia's 2024 growth forecast was increased to 3.2% from the 2.6% projected by the IMF in January 2024 due to continued strong oil exports amid higher global oil prices, despite the price cut mechanism imposed by Western countries, as well as strong government spending and investments related to more production, along with higher consumer spending in a tight labor market. The IMF also upgraded Russia's 2025 growth forecast to 1.8% from 1.1% previously. Clearly, the sanctions imposed by the West do not seem to be working. The forecast for the next five years globally is at its lowest in decades at 3.1%. Global inflation is declining steadily and is projected to lower from 6.8% in 2023 to 5.9% in 2024 and 4.5% in 2025, with advanced economies returning to their inflation target sooner than emerging markets and developing economies. The global economy remains surprisingly resilient despite significant central bank interest rate hikes to repair the price stability. Both banks now anticipate -- most banks now anticipate that the three Federal Reserve rate cuts projected for the end of 2024 will be reduced to one due to this persistent inflation. For shipping, we continue to closely monitor China's economy, which is affected by the enduring downturn in its property sector. The Chinese economy is forecast to grow by only 4.6% in 2024 and 4.1% in 2025. However, China's economic growth may further intensify due to trade tensions in an already weakened geopolitical environment and stability may take even longer to be restored. On the other hand, though, growth in India is projected to remain strong at 6.8% in 2024 and 6.5% in 2025, with robustness reflecting strong domestic demand and the rising working age population. Finally, the ASEAN-5, according to the IMF, will continue to grow quite strongly in the next couple of years, providing significant shipping support. According to Clarkson's, demand for dry bulk trade is presently expected to grow by 2.4% in 2024, slightly below the fleet growth. This includes about a 0.6% uplift for full year 2024 due to the Red Sea and Panama Canal disruptions. A longer duration of disruptions in these regions will potentially drive demand higher. In addition, the combined effect on demand due to slower average speeds and increased congestions could lend further support for a stronger dry bulk demand in 2024. Demand in 2025 is projected by Clarkson's to grow by about 1.5%, assuming the Red Sea disruption has eased by the end of this year. Please turn to Slide 10. Uncertainties about the future of fuels and high new building prices have led to the low order book continuing. As of May 2024, the order book as a percentage of total fleet is at only 9.3%, near the lowest historical levels. This suggests low fleet growth over the next two to three years. Complementing this low fleet growth, we also have the effect of increased slow steaming and expected scrapping due to the introduction of the new environmental regulations. This could reduce the effective available bulk supply even further. Turning to Slide 11. Let us now look into the supply fundamentals in a bit more deeply. As of May 2024, the total dry bulk vessel operating fleet was 13,700 vessels. According to Clarkson's latest report, new deliveries as a percentage of total fleet are expected to be 3.6% in 2024, 3.2% in 2025 and 3.5% in 2026 onwards. The actual fleet growth is, of course, expected to be lower than the aforementioned figures due to scrapping and slippage. Also note that 9% of the fleet is older than 20 years old, and therefore, a good candidate for scrapping, especially if the market remains at current levels or lower. Please turn to Slide 12 where we summarize our outlook for the dry bulk market. Dry bulk shipping showed a modest decline during the first quarter of 2024 following a peak in December. Despite this decrease, Q1 of 2024 marks the highest market level for this typically slow season since 2010, with the exception of 2022, primarily due to the geopolitical and weather-related disruptions as discussed previously. The outlook for the remainder of 2024 suggests a robust bulk carrier market with rates around current levels. The recent strength in market conditions is largely attributable to tensions in the Suez Canal, which have significantly increased ton-miles. As and when these disruptions begin to ease or resolve, demand patterns are anticipated to normalize, although this adjustment may take a considerable amount of time to fully materialize. Clarkson's assumes Red Sea rerouting is currently adding 1.2% to dry bulk ton-mile demand. Assuming half a year of rerouting due to these disruptions, which will then ease back to normal. This adds 0.6% to the full year of 2024 ton-mile demand growth. Assuming subsequent easing, this will subtract a similar figure from 2025 ton-mile demand growth. It is all quite uncertain though and will largely depend on the geopolitical developments, so it is possible that disruption could be as quickly or could take significant amount of time. In any event, in 2025, bulker earnings are expected to be softer as diminished fleet and fleet inefficiencies and the cumulative growth of the fleet in recent years have offset the strong trade rebound. On the other hand, the decarbonization process is expected to affect trade lines and dry bulk volumes going forward, positively by resulting in slower speeds and more scrapping, but negatively if less coal is transported. The overall effect on the market is hard to predict. On the supply side growth, the ordering of new ships has been very limited due to the lack of available slots at shipyards and uncertainty about the fuel of the future, despite significant orders for methanol fuel ships. The order book to fleet ratio remains nearly historically low levels, as said before, setting the stage for a potential recovery in charter rates should demand increase. Furthermore, introduction of emissions regulation related measures could further curtail supply via increased scrapping or slower operational speed for a portion of the fleet. EEXI, CII, EU ETS, FuelEU are all new acronyms the industry will need to cope with and more are to come. Let's turn to Slide 13. The left side of the slide shows the evolution of one year time charter rates of Panamax dry vessels over the last 20 years. As of May 17, 2024, the one year time charter rate for Panamax ships with a capacity of 75,000 deadweight tons stood at $16,150 per day, which is about 20% above the historical median of around $13,500 per day. On the other hand, 10 year old Panamax vessel prices have reached the maximum price seen in the last 10 years, around $29.5 million, as can be seen in the right-hand side graph. This is significantly higher than the 10 year historical average price of $16.8 million and median price of $14.75 million. At current secondhand prices, we are reluctant to purchase more vessels. We are happy to keep on running the fleet at market rates, strengthening the balance sheet, reducing debt and waiting for new opportunities to present themselves. Let me now pass the floor over to our CFO, Tasos Aslidis, to go over the various financial highlights in more detail.

Tasos Aslidis: Thank you very much, Aristides. Good morning from me as well, ladies and gentlemen. Over the next four slides, I will give you an overview of our financial highlights for the first quarter of 2024 and compare those results to the same period of last year. For that let's turn to Slide 15. For the first quarter of 2024, the company reported total net revenues of $14.4 million, representing a 27.2% increase of our total net revenues of $11.3 million during the first quarter of last year. And this was the result of the increased bank charter rates our vessels earned during the first quarter of this year plus the increased number of vessels we operated this quarter compared to the same quarter of the previous year. The company reported net loss for the period of $1.9 million and a net loss attributable to controlling shareholders for the period of $1.78 million, as compared to a net loss attributable to controlling shareholders of $1.54 million for the same period of 2023. The net loss attributable to the non-controlling shareholders of $0.13 million in the first quarter of this year represents the loss that corresponds to the 39% ownership of the entities represented by the NRP investors, as Aristides explained earlier. Interest and other financing costs, including interest income for the first quarter of 2024 increased to $2.04 million, as compared to $1.23 million for the same period of last year. Interest expense during the first quarter of 2024 was higher, mainly due to the increased amount of debt and the increased benchmark rates that [indiscernible] to pay, while interest income was lower due to lower cash balances we carried during the period as compared to the same period of 2023. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of this year was $2.07 million, compared to $2.36 million during the first quarter of 2023. Basic and diluted loss per share attributable to controlling shareholders for the first quarter of 2024 was $0.65, calculated on about 2.8 million shares basic and diluted weighted average number of shares outstanding, compared to basic and diluted loss per share of $0.55 for the first quarter of last year calculated on also about 2.8 million shares basic and diluted. Excluding the effect from the net loss attributable to the controlling shareholders for the quarter of the unrealized gain on derivatives, the adjusted loss for the quarter ended March 31, 2024, which had been $1.19 basic and diluted compared to adjusted earnings of $0.14 per share, basic and diluted again for the same period of last year. Let's now turn to Slide 16 to review our fleet performance. As usual, we will start our review by first examining the utilization rates for the expected -- for the first quarter of this year and compared to last year. Our fleet utilization rate is broken down into commercial and operational. During the first quarter of this year, our commercial utilization rate was 100%, while our operational utilization rate was 98.1%, compared to 99.8% commercial and 99.7% operational for the first quarter of 2023. On average, 13 vessels were owned and operated during the first quarter of this year, earning an average time charter equivalent rate of $12,455 per day, compared to 10 vessels in the same period of last year earning an average $10,674 per vessel per day. Our total daily operating expenses including management fees, general and administrative expenses but excluding drydocking costs were $6,867 per vessel per day during the first quarter of this year, compared to $6,953 per vessel per day for the first quarter of 2023. If we move forward down on this table, we can see the cash flow breakeven levels, which takes into account in addition to the above, the drydocking expenses, interest expenses and loan repayments. For the first quarter of 2024, our daily cash flow breakeven level was $12,440 per vessel per day, compared to $13,186 per vessel per day for the same period of 2025. Turning on to Slide 17 to review our debt profile. As of March 31, 2024, our outstanding bank debt was $101.46 million, and it is projected to decline to about $67.5 million by the end of 2026. The remainder of this year, our total debt repayments, including volume payments, amount to about $14.7 million, for a total for the year of about $18 million. Then in both 2025 and 2026, loan repayments are due to decrease to about $9.7 million per year, significantly thus reducing our cash flow breakeven level. It is worth mentioning on this slide that the average margin of our debt, which is about 2.45%, and assuming a soft rate of about 5.32%, make the total cost of our debt, if we take also into account the reduced interest we're going to pay for the portion of our debt that we have swapped, make the overall cost of our debt at around 7.56%. At the bottom of this slide, we can see our projected cash flow breakeven level for the next 12 months broken down into its [indiscernible] components. Overall, we expect our cash flow breakeven level to be around $12,535 per vessel per day and our EBITDA breakeven level to be around $8,513 per vessel per day for the next 12 months, as I mentioned. Let me now conclude my brief financial presentation by moving to the -- to Slide 18, where we can see some highlights from our balance sheet in a simplistic way, taking basically a snapshot of our assets and liabilities. As of March 31, 2024, cash and other current assets in our balance sheet stood at about $27 million. The book value of our vessels was approximately $200 million, resulting in total book value of our assets of about $227.4 million. On our liability side, as I mentioned earlier, our debt as of March 31, 2024 was about $101.5 million, representing approximately 44.7% of the book value of our assets, while other liabilities amounted to $8.8 million, about 3.7% of the book value of our assets. The remaining book value of $116.8 million, represents the interest of our minority holdings, the NRP investors, of about $9.6 million $107.4 million of book value is attributed to our common shareholders, resulting in a book value of $38.35 per share. However, based on market transaction and other market reports, we estimate that the market value of our vessels was and is above their book value and stands at around $262 million. That is about $62 million higher than their book value, which is equivalent to about $20 per share, thus bringing our NAV per share to more than $60. Our share price, which is trading around $22 lately, represents a significant discount compared to our NAV, discount in the order of 65%, a valuation gap that offers a significant upside potential for our shareholders and investors. And with that, let me turn the floor back to Aristides to continue the call.

Aristides Pittas: Thank you, Tasos. Let me now open up the floor for any questions we may have.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Tate Sullivan with Maxim Group.

Tate Sullivan: First on the debt repayment profile on Slide 17. Tasos, is this debt the existing loan repayment, something that you're looking to refinance before the end of the year, or will you use cash flow to -- or you prioritize using cash flow to pay down that debt?

Tasos Aslidis: I think we're -- I don't think we are planning to refinance any of our debt in the near future. I believe we are planning to repay the -- to make the payments that are due in the remaining of the year from the cash flow we are going to generate. And as you can see in the slide, the repayments drop significantly next year and the year after, reducing our cash flow breakeven. We have loan payments that are coming due in 2027, as you can see. And I suspect those we will be refinancing at the time.

Tate Sullivan: And then on the Blessed Luck in the quarter and the boiler damage, did that happen while in drydock, in voyage? And the expenses to repair, is that within drydocking costs? Can you go into more detail on that, please?

Aristides Pittas: No. This damage happened when we left the shipyard it was and that of the crew and the shipyard were the cause that this happened. But it happened just after we had left the shipyard. It's an insurable cost and all the repairs are covered. Unfortunately, the loss of time is not covered. So we lost 17 days of employment.

Tate Sullivan: Can you approximate or can you sure that approximate cost to repair that should be insurable?

Aristides Pittas: I think it's about $900,000. It's not a cheap repair. But as I said.

Tasos Aslidis: It did not include in the numbers because it's fully insured. So you will not find it either the drydocking or operating expenses.

Tate Sullivan: And then going forward, scheduled drydocks for the rest of the year, can you review that?

Aristides Pittas: In this quarter, we only have one drydock, which has already taken place, which is the Starlight. And we have three drydocks in Q3, I haven't looked as far as Q4, but.

Tasos Aslidis: There's no drydocks -- nothing scheduled for Q4 of this year.

Aristides Pittas: Nothing for Q4. So it's the three drydocks in Q3 really that is still to come.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Poe Fratt with Alliance Global Partners (NYSE:GLP).

Poe Fratt: I had a question, Aristides about your 2025 outlook. If things, like you're trying to signal less congestion next year, less disruption, a little bit more in supply growth and demand just slowing a little bit modestly, would potentially create a softer rate environment, would you categorize your outlook as conservative or do you think it's sort of a base case? Or do you think it's sort of a conservative case and that you potentially get, if some of these things linger, it's a little bit better than you think?

Aristides Pittas: Yes. I think -- I mean, we generally try to be quite conservative. But in all honesty, it is extremely difficult to predict how the market will move under the current geopolitical situations because they affect the trade, they affect economic growth, and nobody can really say what that would be. There are a few positives. The low supply growth is a positive. The fact that vessels are growing slower due to the environmental regulations is a positive. These are strong positives. If demand turns out being quite strong in 2025, we can have a much better market. It's really difficult to decide. Having said that the FFA market is also predicting a slightly lower market in 2025 than in 2024. So this is the information we currently have. Very, very difficult to decipher and decide what the actual move will be. It can be -- I mean, if there are geopolitical tensions but the global economy does well, i.e., we have longer trade routes but still the economy works well, we can have a very good market. But our base case is always quite conservative.

Poe Fratt: And then in that context, I'm not sure if I could -- anything about any FFA hedging for the rest of the year. Do you have any in place? And then secondly, with one your time charters in the sort of the mid to high teens, would that be something that might be attractive given your outlook for 2025 or sort of the latter half of '24 and the early part of '25?

Aristides Pittas: Yes. Currently, as we said, all our ships are essentially on spot charters trading the market. If we see a strengthening in the next couple of months, we will probably fix a portion of our fleet at these higher numbers, either through normal time charters or through FFAs. We currently don't have any open FFA position. But if we see levels that are even more satisfactory than these levels -- these levels, today's market levels, are still profitable levels overall. This quarter, we had the loss that we had due to drydocks and the off-hire of the Blessed Luck mainly. Also, we took a loss on the FFAs that we have done. But next quarter, we are cautiously optimistic that we will return to profitability.

Poe Fratt: And then Tasos, could you just sort of give some guidance for OpEx? So just OpEx should be just slightly up for the rest of the year relative to what you've reported in the first quarter?

Tasos Aslidis: I think we're pretty much on budget for the first quarter. So I mean, we would be plus or minus 2% to 3%, I believe. It's hard to say. But we haven't seen any surprises on the OpEx so far.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Lars Edvard with Arctic Securities.

Lars Edvard: So I guess on the last quarter kind of touched upon my question. But as you noted in your report this morning, you're positioning your fleet for more market exposure moving forward. I guess in that context, your market view should be positive, I think, as you structure assets with this [indiscernible].

Aristides Pittas: Sure. I mean our base case is that for the next few months the market should be quite positive.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to management for any final comments.

Aristides Pittas: Well, thank you all for listening in today's presentation. We will be back to you with Q2 results in about three months' time. Thank you.

Tasos Aslidis: Bye, everybody.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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